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E157: Naive Enough To Start & Audacious Enough To Finish W/ Jay Maas Part 2


It's great to have guests back on to see what they’ve been up to and dive further into their creative businesses. On this episode we are joined again by engineer, entrepreneur, and artist Jay Maas to speak on how things have been since the start of his AI mastering platform Maastr since we spoke right at launch a year and a half ago. We talk over getting non-bias feedback, working with teams and coaching for the first time, and finding ways to get creative with getting your business started when your budget gets depleted. Great conversation on take two with Jay. If you haven’t listened to E65 go check it out first for context!

In This Episode We Cover

  • Covid pivots

  • Creating a minimal viable product and coming to market

  • Creative meets programming

  • Outside feedback

  • Concept of teams

  • Being a control freak

  • Offloading work and collaborating

  • Running out of money on your build

  • Naive enough to start, audacious enough to finish it

  • In no mans land

  • Non-bias feedback loop


“There’s no reason to release a product that’s worse than something that already exists.” - Jay Maas

“What makes this different? what makes this actually good?” - Jay Maas

“You need a little bit of naivety of an idea to get into it then you need the audacity to complete it and make it happen despite what you got into.” - Host Dave Swillum

Jay’s Links

Jay’s Mastering Platform (I love this thing personally)

Jay’s Audio Site

IG @Jay_maas

Resources Noted In This Episode

Optimistic Nihilism

E65 W/ Jay on the show

Waking Up From Work Podcast Links

IG / Tik Tok / Clubhouse / Twitter / HiHo Follow & DM Me!


Merch To Support Us!

Patreon (If you want to support the show check out our sweet offers for you)

Facebook Community to connect to creatives


Youtube Channel & Series

For audio advice and more in depth music content from Dave

Dave’s Indie Band Broadwing

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